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Friday, September 22, 2023

Kirmanis (3)

Azeemuddin Sahab’s last wife was the daughter of Hafiz Hameed. I don’t have her name. If someone does, please inform me so I can add it here.

She was mother of ZiaUddin Kirmani.


I called him Mamoon Abbu (MA)


He also had a sister, Ishtiaqun Nisa, He lived with her for a while. No details about her life can be found. He left her home after he got married to Warisun Nisa Suhrawardy who had been widowed earlier. But then she died very soon after her marriage to MA..



MA went to live with Shahabddin Mamooñ who was his half-brother. They lived together for a very long time and he was treated as a real-brother, always.



MA's 2nd wife was Sultana Ansari whom he met when he was teaching Arabic at a college and she was teaching there too. 


Sultana Ansari


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His book: “A Lasting Messenger with a Lasting Message” had parts that General Zia said he should remove and he’d get the Prize Money that was offered each year. MA said he’d researched for years and was not going to remove anything. The book was never officially sold (except by a couple of small stalls). Shia booksellers did not want to keep it because they felt that his pieces on Hazrat Ali were not to their liking. The book had quotes in Arabic, too, whenever the book mentioned a piece in it's English or Urdu version. 


I was in UK and saw the books on sale outside a mosque. I wrote MA about this and he asked the publishers who (falsely) said to MA that they had no idea how it got there. 



I helped read and edited the script while I was in the Merchant Navy.

Here is the copy I was sent. 


Original Typewritten Script is with me


The English Version
was done again byTariq
as the old English Version
was fairly poorly done.


MA writes that this is An Unconventional Study

"To those who seek the truth
and are prepared to face it." 

Among the first pages of the book is this

"We make no distinction introspect of any one of His Apostles"
Quran: Baqr 285



The Urdu Edition


This was given to me by MA


Here we get more details of MA

Book Insert



His son is Tariq Kirmani (ex-Head of PIA and PSO). He is married to Sabiha. They have 2 daughters and 2 grandchildren 


Tariq

Sabiha

 

   

Maliha

Ameena 


Aisha 


Zara



For those who haven't read
The Lasting Messenger With A Lasting Message
Please contact me.

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Sunday, September 17, 2023

Kirmanis (2)


Shahabuddin Kirmani’s mother was a second cousin to my Nana, Syed Iftikhar Husain, who ensured that Shahabuddin had a good job at his niece’s (Inam Habibullah) house. Shahabuddin worked at her place and was in charge of accounts and many things. 


Shahabuddin was Achchay Mamooñ (AM) for me.



AM had 2 sons: Nishat Bhai, who married Sofia Bhabi … and the entire family loved her. She was an absolute gem. She died of cancer some time ago.




The 2 had several children. Tauqeer was the eldest. His wife died of cancer at a young age. They have 4 daughters. Tauqeer died recently after falling down in the bathroom. Nishat Bhai and Sofia Bhabi have other sons: Zameer, Shakeel. Naveed. 


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AMs second son was Aqeel Bhai (aka Sabahuddin) who died of cancer many years ago as a well-known military officer. His wife, Shamim Fatima Alavi (we called her Putti Bhabi), and three children are here. Sabihuddin is in the Air Force. Saif was a Captain in the Merchant Navy. Aisha is married and lives in Karachi. 



After AM’s wife, Sayyedun Nisa, passed away he was married to Mursilunnisa, my mother’s cousin. They adopted a daughter, Jannat, who lives in Lucknow. 




AM also took under his care his younger half-brother, Ziauddin Kirmani and treated him always as a real brother. More about ZK in the next blog: Kirmani (3)



AM loved humour. He was a poet and I have his handwritten deevān. As part of his humour, a section of the book is named Chirkeenyāt. It was to honour Chirkeen who always wrote about our excrement. Here are two pieces of his writing:







 

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Thursday, September 14, 2023

Kirmanis (1)

The Kirmanis came to India from Iran. There are two stories of their coming here and are contradictory to each other. 

1/ Some people say they came at the time of Shujauddin in 16th Century. Most settled in UP while some shifted to Bengal for trading. Later on they, too, migrated to UP. 


2/ Probably the most accurate one is that they came at the time of Shuja-us-Daula in the middle of 17th Century and settled in UP. 


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Here is their Shajrah that I have from Furhan, Zameer, and Ishtiaq. They are my nephews from different families. 


This blog leads to the 2 Kirmanis I knew. 


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Mahboob Ali

f/o

Zulfiqar Ali

f/o

Sarfaraz Ali

f/o

Burhanuddon 

f/o

Moeenuddin Kirmani

f/o

Syed Azimuddin Kirmani



Azimuddin married 6 times.


1/ Tauqeerunnisa d/o Jamaluddin Abbasi. Her son was Shahabuddin Kirmani

2/ One wife (name unknown) was the d/o Maulvi Azizuddin. Son was Shafiuddin Kirmani. No trace available. 

3/ One wife (name unknown) was the d/o Munshi Sultan Husain. Children unknown.

4/ One wife was from Khairabad. No info. 

5/ One more wife from Azeempur. No info. 

6/ One wife was d/o Hafiz Hameeduddin. Son was Ziauddin Kirmani. He was the younger half-brother of Shahabuddin and lived with Shahabuddin Mamoon afterwards and was always treatrd like a real brother.  (Ziauddin’s older sister was Ishtiaqun Nisa.)


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The next two blogs will have details about Shahabuddin and Ziauddin Mamoons and their families


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